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Player Ratings: Torino 2-1 AC Milan – Maignan howler again; Pavlovic fights

AC Milan failed to get back to winning ways as Torino prevailed 2-1 at Stadio Olimpico. As has become a theme this season, mistakes cost them dearly and below are the player ratings for the Rossoneri.

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Maignan (4): What can I even say? The mistake on the first goal was unreal, hitting it straight towards both Thiaw and Adams instead of sending it for a throw-in. It’s just another of many errors this season and it’s becoming incredibly frustrating. He did make a good save on Vlasic later and the second goal was tough to save, but the error set the tone after just five minutes (like against Feyenoord).

Jimenez (5.5): He had some good moments in attack and especially in the build-up, often pushing up with pace to open up space for his teammates. That being said, his crossing wasn’t great this evening and he also had some struggles at the back, hence the rating.

Thiaw (6): The own-goal was incredibly unlucky and certainly not his fault as he was just shielding the striker from Maignan. Overall, his defending was good but perhaps he shouldn’t have complained so much on the second goal, with Torino taking the quick free-kick. Then again, I think he was quite solid at the back and as always good with the passing in attack.

Pavlovic (6.5): There were a couple of questionable moments, in defence as well as in the build-up, but once again he was one of the few who showed grinta. In the final part of the game, he was more or less a striker and came close to a goal. He also pushed forward with the ball a lot which certainly helped, and defended well all things considered.

Hernandez (5.5): It was another evening with not enough substance from him in the attacking phase, even if there were some good runs. Defensively, I didn’t have any major complaints up until the second goal, when he made sure the goalscorer was onside by being in a much deeper position than his teammates.

Musah (5): He opted for some risky moves on the ball and was also booked early on, even if that was a bit harsh. He also failed to make a rather easy interception on a counter, as one of two final men, and that could have proved more costly.

Reijnders (6): The goal, which was a great strike with his weak foot, is ultimately what saved the rating here. Because before the equaliser, he had many easy passes missed and a big chance squandered, even if Milinkovic-Savic made a good stop. He can still do so much better.

Pulisic (5.5): Even though he was involved in quite a lot and had some very good crosses, as well as a great through-ball for Reijnders, we simply cannot give him a pass. Milinkovic-Savic made a good stop, but a missed penalty is a missed penalty and Milan needed that goal.

Joao Felix (6): Compared to previous performances, I actually don’t think he was dreadful. He had some very good flicks, helping Milan break through, and also set up Gimenez for a big chance in the first half. We also saw good balls over the top from him, so in his role, I think he did okay.

Leao (5): While it was a surprise to see him get taken off at half-time, the performance perhaps justified it. He struggled in both phases of the game, failing with even the easiest of passes, and also didn’t have the best of success in the 1v1s. He did win the penalty, but that was more clumsiness from the defender than anything.

Gimenez (5.5): Unfortunately, we only saw a couple of good moments from him. He had a great chance saved in the first half, getting a good shit away with his weaker foot, but then failed to connect with his head on a nice cross from Pulisic. Again, the keeper made a great save on the first chance but a 5.5 is justified here.

Fofana (5.5): He didn’t change the game for the better, even if it wasn’t horrible by any means tonight. Some missed attempts and passes squandered set the tone for his rating here.

Abraham (5.5): Like Fofana, he was added to change the game but it didn’t happen. Sure, some of his runs were good and stretched the Torino defence a little, but not enough to make a difference.

Sottil (6.5): He entered with energy and actually had success in his 1v1s, sending the cross in that led to Reijnders’ goal among other things. He also had the cross for Pavlovic right at the death, which nearly ended up being an equaliser.

Camarda (N/A): We didn’t see enough to give him a rating.

Chukwueze (N/A): We didn’t see enough to give him a rating.

You don’t see even in Lega Pro the stuff that happens in Milan games. They are either boycotting Conceicao or the management, but this is no way a “mental problem” or whatever bs clichee football analysts will come up with.

Yes, Felix aas dreadul.

You can have this lineup
—————-Haaland—————–
Vini.Jr——–Bellingham——–Salah
———-Valverde——Rodri————
Davies—Van Dijk—-Saliba—Carvajal
—————–Courtois——————-
Or even this lineup
——————-Ronaldo——————
C.Ronaldo——Maradona——-Messi
——–Matthäus——Rijkaard———–
Maldini–Baresi–Beckenbauer—Cafu
———————Buffon——————
And I can almost guarantee that we will have the same result and will look probably as bad. It’s not because our players are good, they’re not, only few of them are good but when there is no strategy, no cohesion, no tactics and no motivation whatsoever, you can field any player you want the results won’t change a lot.
I actually want to see a training session once to see what our players are made to do or are they actually even trying to do something.
Sure we can blame Maignan, Fofana and Pavlović for the goals, sure missing a penalty is unlucky, but what did we do going for us? Because our passes look like “hope passes”, just close your eyes pass the ball somewhere and hope someone from your team gets it, rinse and repeat and of course, once a player passes the ball he has NO IDEA where to go or how to move. This time the ONLY non-controversial stuff Conceição did is keeping Pulisic and Reijnders while subbing out Félix and Leão. At least he got the memo on this one.
Season is over. Call me weak, defeatist, weak minded and whatever comes to your mind if that makes you happy but season is over? Yeah we’re still X points from 4th or whatever with whatever game in hand (please stop calculating it’s tiring) but do you think this team is going to win in Bologna? In Stadio Olmpico against Lazio? In Diego Maradona against Napoli? against Atalanta or Fiorentina? Just try not getting relegated and celebrate if we’re still in serie A next season.
Also do you think these players actually CARE (aside from Pavlović of course)? Théo probably still thinks he can make it to Real Madrid or Bayern or Manchester City or PSG. Leão probably still thinks he will play for Barcelona next season. Maignan probably thinks of leaving as well. Even Reijnders and Pulisic with their good performances are probably wondering now if a big team is coming for them this summer and Conceição is probably already wondering which team is going to call him next season.
I guess the only positive thing is that the season is near over so less atrocious games and poor results to watch.
Can’t wait for the summer and what the ambitious RedBird and competent management will cook for us !! 🔥🔥
(reposted because it got swallowed)

It is very clear that the players don’t want Conceicao

I think this is a protest against the ownership by players. No coach can fix this team. No chance

Man it is really hard to be a milan supporter

Football is collective sport.

For example: if Leao is strongest attacking player than he must do 100% in attack but others must cover him up.

If Theo was best by going in attack then use no10, to cover his spot in defence.

If Reijnders was best as no10 than there is no need to put Felix on his position

There was no need to change Piolis strategy but to upgrade his disabilities and mistakes.

Problem is that Redabird will again make mistakes by sacking and sales and new arrivals in next season

This! It’s about playing players to their strengths. But both Fonseca and Conceicao want to impose their style onto the players but it’s not working because they’re not functional to the style they want. Been saying this. It’s such a clear delineation between players and coach if I ever seen one

Felix deserved a 4

What can we say…we probably need to accept defeat, Write this season off and regroup for next season. We have seen this story before and so there is nothing new to add to the narrative. Disappointing to say the least..

I imagine Pioli looking at this Milan with a big, evil smile on his face.

Another game Milan players find a way to beat themselves.
Another game one of Milan supposed superstars managed to do something to put the team behind the 8 ball.
Torino didn’t have to do anything. Matter fact they didn’t do anything, Milan did their job for them.
Time for Mike Maignan to hit the bench. If my GKer is going to make amateur mistakes, I’d rather that be a 19 year old Torriani. Twice in 4 games.
This fantastic 4 crap needs to be scraped and never used again. 3 of the 4 were awful, especially Pulisic after the missed penalty. He literally played for Torino after that.
Kudos to Pavlovic, Reijnders and Jimenez. They made mistakes but at least they didn’t give up until the end. I don’t knock why Conceição kept Pulisic on the pitch but took Jimenez out.
Another chance missed to put themselves in a great position for top 4.

We did create a lot but imprecisely and unlucky. Their goalkeeper was the MOTM. And we lost the game due to two brain farts; one by Maignan, and the other one by both Fofana and Thiaw. Even Pulisic missed a PK for the first time in his entire professional career. That’s how rotten the season has been for AC Milan. It’s Murphy’s Law. Everything that can go wrong, does.

Maignan – 4. In 3 games, we lost two of them because of his blunders. He doesn’t get an even lower score because he had two good saves.

Jimenez – 6.5. One of the few players who did well. Lots of effort and mostly good plays.

Thiaw – 5.5. Not responsible for the own goal but did fail in their second goal, naively.

Pavlovic – 7. A monster. MOTM for Milan. Tried all he could do to get a better result for Milan. He’s been consistently one of our best players.

Theo – 6. Actually he wasn’t terrible. Nothing above a pass, but no major mistakes.

Musah – 5. The usual yellow card, the usual effort with the usual blunders. He’s always the same, and insufficient.

Reijnders. 6.5 because he scored but otherwise was not that good.

Pulisic – 5. Not incisive and missed his first PK in his career.

João Felix – 6. Actually did OK, hit the post, had a good pass to Gimenez, had a good shot saved by their goalkeeper.

Leão – 5. Earned the PK but did nothing else.

Gimenez – 5.5. Even him was poor today.

Subs

Sottil – 6.5. Significantly better game than last one. Participated in Reijnders’ goal.

Fofana – 5. Asleep in their second goal.

Abraham – 5.5. No impact but nothing bad.

Chuk – s/v

Camarda s/v

Conceição – 4. His Milan is regressing. He has a blind spot for João Felix. His Milan with a decent roster can’t figure out much humbler teams. At this point I’m disillusioned. Sure, it’s not his fault that both goals were brain farts by 3 of our players but his team looks like it is walking backwards. I doubt he will stay beyond 6 months, including because it’s very unlikely that we will finish in the top four.

Thank you for putting shit in Santi’s rating I needed a little laugh after that.

I’ve watched a few games of City this season because I wanted to witness what was going on with them. It’s clear that they have a mental problem, but no one can accuse them for not trying. The thing is I don’t know what is going on with ACM. Mental, physical, tactics? Seems like most of the players have already quit.

Embarrassing.

I think every Milan fan itw said to themselves “not again” when Mike kicked it into thaiw. Then the penalty save, it a miss, Pulisic should’ve gone upper corner, the save on santi, save on tiji breakaway. Their keeper MOTM. Milan are getting worse and I don’t know what else to say. I’m speechless!!

Joao ok?Are you sure?open your eyes dude.He slowing down the attack,disjoint,no penetration,no 1-2 (except one with Gnez),no verticality,no running,nothing!!He was dreadful!Bring Tijani up,thats should be better!

I don’t understand why he took off Leao. He created danger and the pen 🤷‍♂️. But ok even playing devil’s advocate, he put a defensive player in with a goal down…it doesn’t wash. To me it was Felix that’s clogging up the central attacking area which Reinjders tend to occupy (starting to lean towards the others who’ve made that comment before). Notice how the offense sort of opened up a little bit when Felix went off? Sottil, though lesser quality understands spacing better than Felix (as of now and for Serie A games). He doesn’t seem to interfere with Tiji’s runs as much.
Also I don’t understand why play the Fab 4 from the start which is soooo unbalanced. That’s more a formation for when we’re desperate to get a goal and throw the kitchen sink…not to start games with. Shoutcecaio is out of his depth here. But he’s without a functioning midfield. What team boasts a successful winter transfer window prowess and only have 3 midfielders??? And any 2 combination are terrible for the pivot. None work together. And finally, poor Reinjders. He looks tired asf but still has to score, keep the team in the game and play the whole 90 AGAIN ! Shout out to Puli, unfortunately these things happen (pen miss) and streaks are bound to be broken. Dont know what to say at this point. It’s baffling. On the one hand, clearly we’re seeing many individual mistakes over the season, on the other hand the team was capable of finishing 2nd as per last season. I don’t know how to reconcile the two beyond coaching changes and chopping the team too often. But maybe there’s something else going on, got not other explanation for it.

Btw the ratings are so off. I don’t know how Felix gets a pass and Leao and Puli doesn’t. I could go on but I’ll leave it there

Pathetic! Someone just said it seems the players don’t wanna play for Conceiçao , another said they’re playing bad in protest of the management.
LMAO. Did y’all watch the celebrations after the won the super Coppa?
Every excuse in the book to absolve the coach of any blame. I thought y’all said they didn’t wanna play for Fonseca. And were over the moon when Conceiçao arrived.
The biggest thing I’ve seen in this team is a toothless coach that is scared to bench his “top” players. A toothless coach that has no tactics or strategy. A cooler sitting, shouting coach that is clueless with his team selection. A cooler sitting spineless coach with no need/hunger for creativity in his midfield or wings.
I guess everyone nobody can blame Fonseca for our position on the table now right? I thought Conceiçao was supposed to make us qualify for champions league ? Lmao.
While I blame management for most of our troubles, I also blame fans for their impatience and trying to tell the coach how he should handle his lazy players. Y’all better enjoy your great Conceiçao

Bro both goals that Milan conceded is 100% their fault and could have been avoided so easy. Milan should have won this one but idk why they do this noob mistakes every time this is not normal

So where exactly is the problem so is it the players, the coach, the owners, the backroom staff, the scouts…?

Time for a complete clear out including the owner!

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Pos	Team	Pld	W	D	L	+/-	Pts
1	Napoli	25	17	5	3	22	56
2	Inter	26	16	7	3	34	55
3	Atalanta	25	15	6	4	28	51
4	Lazio	26	14	5	7	13	47
5	Juventus	25	11	13	1	21	46
6	Fiorentina	25	12	6	7	14	42
7	AC Milan	25	11	8	6	11	41
8	Bologna	25	10	11	4	7	41
9	Roma	25	10	7	8	7	37
10	Udinese	26	10	6	10	-4	36
11	Torino	26	7	10	9	-3	31
12	Genoa	26	7	10	9	-9	31
13	Como	25	6	7	12	-10	25
14	Cagliari	25	6	7	12	-13	25
15	Lecce	26	6	7	13	-24	25
16	Verona	25	7	2	16	-28	23
17	Parma	26	5	8	13	-13	23
18	Empoli	25	4	9	12	-16	21
19	Venezia	26	3	8	15	-19	17
20	Monza	25	2	8	15	-18	14

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Serie A | Torino 2-1 Milan: Total Diavolo disaster

Milan’s week went from bad to worse, as Torino made the most of a comical own goal, quickly-taken free kick and parried Christian Pulisic penalty to win 2-1.

The Rossoneri were smarting after their shock Champions League play-off exit to Feyenoord, which saw Theo Hernandez foolishly sent off. Kyle Walker, Emerson Royal, Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Alessandro Florenzi were all injured, so Alex Jimenez came in at right-back with the Fab Four again risked together. Toro gave January signings Cesare Casadei, Eljif Elmas and Cristiano Biraghi starts, but Adam Masina was suspended with Alieu Njie, Adrien Tameze, Perr Schuurs, Duvan Zapata, Ivan Ilic and Zanos Savva out.

See how it all unfolded on the Liveblog.

It was a total nightmare start for Milan, as Mike Maignan made a total mess of hoofing a long ball clear and kicked it against teammate Malick Thiaw, the ricochet taking it into the empty net behind them. By a bizarre coincidence, Thiaw had also scored an own goal when these sides met in a 2-2 draw on August 17.

Joao Felix combined with Tijjani Reijnders to send Santiago Gimenez clear, only for the finish to be palmed over the bar by Vanja Milinkovic-Savic.

Gimenez then only grazed his head to the Christian Pulisic cross-shot, but Marcus Pedersen foolishly flailed an arm over his head in unnatural fashion to charge down the Rafael Leao header for a penalty. Pulisic stepped up and for the first time in his career failed to convert from the spot, denied by the save from specialist Milinkovic-Savic.

Torino threatened to double their lead, as Guillermo Maripan got the header all wrong on a corner and Maignan parried the Pedersen follow-up.

Moments later, Maignan again reached up a trailing hand to push the Nikola Vlasic effort over, set up by Elmas.

Sergio Conceicao made a big gesture at half-time, taking Rafael Leao off for Youssouf Fofana.

The midfielder swept his finish wide from the edge of the area on a Tammy Abraham back-heel flick, then Milinkovic-Savic flew to parry the Joao Felix curler.

Milinkovic-Savic stuck out a long trailing leg to push the Reijnders strike over the bar after going clear through the centre, then watched the Alex Jimenez effort bend wide of the far post.

Joao Felix went so close, his scorcher thumping the upright from 10 yards on 69 minutes, though the goalkeeper again seemed to have it covered.

Gvidas Gineitis steered his finish wide from a Yann Karamoh knock-down, but Milan finally got their equaliser when Sebastian Walukiewicz only managed to clear as far as Reijnders to put his foot through it into the far top corner from 10 yards.

However, with Milan still fired up and pushing for a winner, they were caught distracted moments later when Sanabria took a free kick quickly to release Gineitis, beating Maignan one-on-one with an angled drive into the far bottom corner.

Karamoh rolled across the face of goal with Sanabria just unable to get the tap-in, then Sanabria fired over from a tricky angle after a long throw-in and Strahinja Pavlovic nodded wide.

Thiaw og 5 (T), Reijnders 74 (M), Gineitis 76 (T)

Saved penalty: Pulisic 33 (M)

Individual mistakes and no composure in attack.
This is easily the lowest of the low since I’ve been alive. There is absolutely nothing there resembling Milan. Top to bottom, the entire institution stinks.

It is sooooo refreshing 😘

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Malick Thiaw		5′
		16′		Yunus Musah
Samuele Ricci		27′
		31′		Christian Pulisic

		74′		Tijjani Reijnders
Gvidas Gineitis (Assist: Antonio Sanabria)		77′